what is allowable for us and what is not. If we abolish the minor training rules, some people will say, ‘The ascetic Gotama laid down training rules for his disciples until the time of his death. But they practice the training rules only as long as their teacher is alive. Since their teacher has now attained final extinguishment, they no longer practice them.’ If the Sangha is ready, it shouldn’t lay down new rules, nor get rid of existing ones, and it should undertake to practice the training rules as they are. This is the motion. Please, venerables, I ask the Sangha to listen. We have training rules that relate to householders. The householders know