“What is it about?” “Stealing.” Mahākassapa also asked Upāli about the topic of the second offense entailing expulsion, about the origin story, about the person, about the rule, about the additions to the rule, about the offense, and about the non-offenses. “And where was the third offense entailing expulsion laid down?” “At Vesālī.” “Who is it about?” “A number of monks.” “What is it about?” “Human beings.” Mahākassapa also asked Upāli about the topic of the third offense entailing expulsion, about the origin story, about the person, about the rule, about the additions to the rule, about the offense, and about the non-offenses.