“A nun can’t verbally renounce the training. When she disrobes, she is no longer a nun.” On one occasion a nun joined another religious community while still wearing her robes. Later she returned and asked the nuns for the full ordination. They told the Buddha. “If a nun goes over to another religious community while still wearing her robes and then returns, she shouldn’t be given the full ordination again.” At that time the nuns, being afraid of wrongdoing, did not consent to men bowing down to them, or to men shaving their heads, cutting their nails, or treating their sores. They told the Buddha. “I allow you to consent to these things.” At that time the nuns were sitting cross-legged, enjoying the touch of their heels.