The young brahmin told Upāli what had happened. Upāli told the monks, who in turn told the Buddha. “A patricide shouldn’t be given the full ordination. If it has been given, he should be expelled.” 52. Murderers of perfected ones On one occasion a number of monks were traveling from Sāketa to Sāvatthī. While on their way, they were attacked by gangsters. Some of the monks were robbed and some were killed. The king’s men came out from Sāvatthī. They caught some of the criminals, while others escaped. Those who escaped went forth with the monks, but those who were caught were taken away for execution. Those who had gone forth saw the others being taken away for execution. They said,