On a later occasion, a monk misbehaved immediately after his full ordination. The monks told him, “Don’t do that. It’s not allowable.” “But I didn’t ask you to ordain me. Why did you ordain me without being asked?” They told the Buddha. “You shouldn’t give the full ordination to someone who hasn’t asked. If you do, you commit an offense of wrong conduct. I allow you to give the full ordination to someone who has asked. And this is how they should ask.