苦しみ
中部経典
趣旨一致
中部経典(MN101 §14.2–16.4)
and if without intense exertion you did experience such feelings, it would be appropriate for the Jain venerables to declare this. But since this is not the case, aren’t you experiencing painful, sharp feelings due only to your own exertion, which out of ignorance, unknowing, and confusion you misconstrue to imply: “Everything this individual person experiences—pleasurable, painful, or neutral—is because of past deeds. …”?’ When I said this, I did not see any legitimate defense of their doctrine